simon
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Post by simon on Jan 27, 2023 11:56:21 GMT 12
Can any one help me to correctly specify flout drawdown and volumes for an X-Perco dosing to PCDI?
Thanks Simon
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Post by techworks on Jan 27, 2023 13:57:47 GMT 12
if your dosing to pressure compensating drippers, you will need at least 10m head at the drippers, so you need to take into account headloss in the delivery line from the flout to the manifold.
I found a guideline document produced by "Rissey plastic" (who I believe may have invented the flout) on basic flout design and this recommends a 3" min size line from flout to manifold to ensure the line remains fully charged under drawdown.
For LPED dosing I always ensure the dose volume is at least 2x the in-system volume of the delivery line+ manifold + drip lines to ensure the system can fully charge. For a PCDI system dosed by flout I'd probably increase that as once the head drops below 10m the emmitters flowrate will also reduce.
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Post by simon on Jan 27, 2023 16:01:05 GMT 12
Thanks for the quick response,
You say 10m head required, minimum working head for say the UNIRAM is 0.5 bar or 5m, will 5m plus headloss to the PCDI (say 6m total) not be enough?
So I have 320m of PCDI at 16mm OD 14,2mm ID which gives me 50L, if I use 6m of 100mm uPVC (47L) from flout to say 20m of 50mm MDPE main (14L) then to the driplines with a dose of 240L.
If I use 2.3L/hr drippers at 0.6m spacings then 500 drippers at 2.3L/hr gives 1150L/hr so 240 L dose will take 12.5 minutes with discharge rate of 19.2L/m.
I understand flout discharge needs to be higher than this, but this appears to be a tenth of actual flout flows so maybe I use 3.5L/hr drippers.
Am I on the right track?
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Post by techworks on Jan 31, 2023 12:04:58 GMT 12
Simon
assume wastewater production is 1200 l/d, I get:
delivery line 55 l inlet/outlet manifolds 51 l dripper pipes 51 l -------------- tot sys vol 157 l
240 dose vol so -no times sys vol goes into dose vole: 1.5 (ideally want at least 2x) -no doses/day: 5.0 (preferably >=5)
total flowrate: 20.4 l/min pump run time: 11.7 min total daily pump run time: 59 min
NB the Alpha conc precast flout chamber has a dose vol of 400l.
Think Devan plastics also do a flout chamber of similar vol
if use 400 l dose vol: -no times sys vol goes into dose vole: 2.6 (better) -no doses/day: 3.0 (not as good!) its always hard to balance the no time the dose vol goes into the system vol against the no doses per day, so I usually compromise on doses/day to ensure I have at least 2x in system volume so I know the system is getting fully charged.
Changing your emmitter flowrate does not affect above two calcs, it only affect total flowrate and pump run time (flowrate from 20.4 l/min to 31.1l/min and runtime from 11.7 to 7.7 assuming same spacing).
Logically thinking, the higher the emmitter flowrate, the larger the orifice, so the lesser chance of blockage.
I hadnt noticed that the UNIRAM would operated down to 5m head!
Looks like your on the right track.
NB might be worth talking to the Netafrm NZ rep to confirm the UNIRAM type is the best one to use with effluent as the emmitters are designed for irrigation with clean water
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simon
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Post by simon on Jan 31, 2023 15:18:11 GMT 12
Thanks very much for your help,
Being in Auckland I've never had to design a flout system, as council only permits PCDI and I hadnt thought to flout dose driplines before.
I'll double check the driplines.
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